tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2993113424656914009.post1760158251577438340..comments2008-07-03T15:14:20.274-05:00Stevenoreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2993113424656914009.post-35295095236259177442008-07-03T15:14:00.000-05:002008-07-03T15:14:00.000-05:00Second picture from the bottom; this shot clearly shows a trail of blood on the starboard side of the nose. The bird is not going to flip suddenly hard a-port; it _had_ to have struck the starboard leading edge. Someone got confused, obviously.<BR/><BR/><A HTEF="http://www.oyun27.com">kral oyun</A><BR/><A HTEF="http://www.oyunlar27.com">oyunlar</A><BR/><A HTEF="http://www.keloyun.com">oyunlar</A>OyUNhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03292633519809510254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2993113424656914009.post-77084586425679195542008-07-03T14:54:00.000-05:002008-07-03T14:54:00.000-05:00If it hit the starboard wing how did cause #1 to flame out?<BR/><BR/><BR/><A HTEF="http://www.oyun27.com">kral oyun</A><BR/><A HTEF="http://www.oyunlar27.com">oyunlar</A>OyUNhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03292633519809510254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2993113424656914009.post-71757830241144057982008-05-10T18:23:00.000-05:002008-05-10T18:23:00.000-05:00Wow a Still Flying F-111,thats a news story in its self,Its a gas hog one of the reasons no one flys them anymore kinda like the F-14 Tomcat,another Gas Hog,But with nose and wing damage from a pelican you want them to ditch in the water or land somewhere else??? While the damage looks Bad to the un trained eye,its really a scratch compared to what happens when an explosive round or missle hits this plane and or is shot up by most anything in wartime,And they fly them just fine back to Base after that Trust me that little pelican hit was a nick ,if it can not sustain that and continue to fly they should have been grounded long ago,They can sustain much more actual battle damage from real guns and ammo and continue to fly safely home,people on the ground were in no real danger,Had it been hit by some actual Combat rounds of cannon fire or most anything else while still looking terrible damaged it could still get the pilots home safely,that fiberglass nose was not made to protect anything ,its made to make the plane aerodynamic in flight,and will shred easily as you can see from most anything and still fly home safely,Wing Damage from a Non explosive ,non armor piercing pelican also is not a serious risk to flight unless ingested by the engine in takeoff which can mess up a flight crews day .The F-111 is built to sustain a whole lot more battle damage than what a pelican can inflict and still fly home safely ,Even if the pelican had a suicide vest on it,they are tough hardy planes to fly,If your still flying f-111,s you better worried more about metal fatigue and other factors that will bring down a very old combat aircraft that has had many years of stress to the airframe and other components that may fail an cause a catastrophic event Cherie o mates .BrevardCountyUnionBustershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03168186603504927954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2993113424656914009.post-35843062777346747302008-05-03T21:05:00.000-05:002008-05-03T21:05:00.000-05:00Oh, my GOD! The F-111 is a piece of aviation wizardry, born out of the 1960's and is STILL FLYING!! It was the first military aicraft to anywhere combine variable-geometry (sweep) wings, TFR (terrain-following radar), advanced - for its day - avionics, and will do over Mach-2.5. It'll carry and deliver pretty much anything (including nukes!) and was responsible for more tanks destroyed in the Gulf War than any other aircraft; but it was old then and didn't get the credit it deserved. There has been no other aircraft before or since that can do everything it does as well as it does or as fast as it does. And the Aussies are STILL FLYIN' 'EM!! So, how's about all you dunderheads find something better to write about (besides your banal "left-port/right-starboard", "#1/#2", gravity-defying birds nonsense) and try and show a venerable old warbird and its crew a bit of respect.<BR/>P.S. I also worked FB-111s, F-111/A/B/C/D/Fs for about a dozen years and, yes, we did use 'port' and 'starboard' all the time. And, yes, the terms did originate from maritime use... look it up.<BR/><BR/>Dan, Bellevue, NEAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2993113424656914009.post-71358750625484691802008-04-29T05:34:00.000-05:002008-04-29T05:34:00.000-05:00Hate to change the subject away from 'Port' & 'Starboard' but another error not commented on in that article, was the location of the incident. It wasn't just west of Brisbane at all. It was approximately 200km SE close to the coastal town of Evans Head in Northern NSW. I live 20 km from there and I question why the crew are hailed as heroes when they could have put the machine down at the Evans Head airport runway. It is still in use and was an Air Force base during WW2. Instead they chose to fly back to Brisbane over many populated areas..heroes or ?nzcoophttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12241841787979008257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2993113424656914009.post-31432488391849851972008-04-24T19:46:00.000-05:002008-04-24T19:46:00.000-05:00I worked in the US aerospace industry 20 years ago.<BR/><BR/>The scuttlebutt is that when the US Army Air Force was being formed, there were people who wanted to use the words "port" and "starboard". Supposedly a general said something to the effect that that they were going to have enough trouble teaching farm boys how to fly, without having to teach them a new language too.<BR/><BR/>Navy and Marine types may think and talk different, but left and right are just fine for the US Air Force.marzolianhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05462953614340130612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2993113424656914009.post-11427702242530445072008-04-23T23:01:00.000-05:002008-04-23T23:01:00.000-05:00no fuck you! I PWN TEH ENTERNEZMantard The Mightyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05530922526443979736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2993113424656914009.post-16862966567639908862008-04-23T22:07:00.000-05:002008-04-23T22:07:00.000-05:00The #1 engine is always on the left side of a multi-engine aircraft, when one is facing forward.<BR/>U.S. Naval forces use "port" and "starboard" terms; to my knowledge, the Marines do as well.<BR/>Current regulations on Air-to-Air Refueling call for the use of "port" and "starboard." Up until the creation of the ATP-56 (B), the U.S. Air Force used Left and Right.<BR/>It's up to debate as to whether these maritime terms will be accepted in all aspects of American military flight.<BR/><BR/>Also, quit being fucking Grammar Nazis, you pricks. The article is about the aircraft, not the English language.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2993113424656914009.post-56567944814479941812008-04-23T13:48:00.000-05:002008-04-23T13:48:00.000-05:00I couldn't help noticing that many of you seem to have spelled the words<BR/>'pedantic mavens' incorrectly. The correct spelling is single.<BR/><BR/>/ctrl dAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2993113424656914009.post-65589596157540453772008-04-23T12:28:00.000-05:002008-04-23T12:28:00.000-05:00The Port/Starboard - Left Right part of the discussion is because even in the American marine sector they use left and right, so that they can be differentiated from the British from whom they rebeled back in the 1700's. They also got thier bouyage the wrong way roundAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2993113424656914009.post-67858143250003456322008-04-23T08:18:00.000-05:002008-04-23T08:18:00.000-05:00I spent some years as a USAF avionics technician on f111's and F15's. The terms port and starboard were NEVER used. Everything directionally on the aircraft is referenced from the pilot's seat as was already pointed out. This was certainly a serious in-flight incident but the aircraft's flight damper systems deserve the most credit for keeping it under control, not the pilot. The real danger was losing the radome and perhaps parts of the attack radar and causing a flameout in the other engine. That would necessitate a practical demonstration of the aardvark's really excellent crew pod ejection system, which I witnessed twice during my Air Force career.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2993113424656914009.post-65935899077192800562008-04-22T19:44:00.000-05:002008-04-22T19:44:00.000-05:00Seriously..who cares, left/right..starboard/port whatever. The point is, they are ok! f111's are going to be obsolete soon anyways.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2993113424656914009.post-14453404724501192622008-04-22T07:05:00.000-05:002008-04-22T07:05:00.000-05:00"Port and starboard are different from left and right. Left and right are relative to the speaker or listener."<BR/><BR/>Actually since I do work in the in aerospace field, (USAF exactly) I can honestly say that left and right are perfectly acceptable terms. When speaking of an acft you are always speaking as if sitting in the pilot's seat, regardless of your current position. Don't be so pompous next time.<BR/><BR/>I didn't know F-111's were still in service...anywhere. Good on you guys.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2993113424656914009.post-28735977110682006712008-04-21T12:12:00.000-05:002008-04-21T12:12:00.000-05:00You guys are nuts!!<BR/><BR/>By the way, no matter if nautical or not! EVERYTHING about aviation navigation came from maritime navigation.<BR/><BR/>Why you think it is Captain and 1st Officer or Pilot and Co-Pilot instead of "Airplane driver or conductor"??<BR/>Captains and Pilots existed long before the first plane flew.<BR/><BR/>(Hope, 'sis all grammaticologic correctly!)<BR/><BR/>Professional AirmanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2993113424656914009.post-25519021025217601902008-04-21T10:23:00.000-05:002008-04-21T10:23:00.000-05:00Yes, you ARE being a douche...<BR/><BR/>PORT and STARBOARD are NAUTICAL terms - originated hundreds of years prior to humans ever dreaming of taking flight.<BR/><BR/>Left and right are from perspective.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2993113424656914009.post-13661730589538901582008-04-21T08:41:00.000-05:002008-04-21T08:41:00.000-05:00The pelican did not survive. But his al Qaeda membership card did. It clearly indicates that he was trained in Afghanistan by Osama Been Laffin for Iranian terrorist runs on Australia.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2993113424656914009.post-67060159994695924722008-04-21T08:39:00.001-05:002008-04-21T08:39:00.001-05:00The pelican did not survive. But his al Qaeda membership card did. It clearly indicates that he was trained in Afghanistan by Osama Been Laffin for Iranian terrorist runs on Australia.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2993113424656914009.post-83094207609467661882008-04-21T08:39:00.000-05:002008-04-21T08:39:00.000-05:00The pelican did not survive. But his al Qaeda membership card did. It clearly indicates that he was trained in Afghanistan by Osama Been Laffin for Iranian terrorist runs on Australia.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2993113424656914009.post-21540655587319942242008-04-21T08:38:00.000-05:002008-04-21T08:38:00.000-05:00The pelican did not survive. But his al Qaeda membership card did. It clearly indicates that he was trained in Afghanistan by Osama Been Laffin for Iranian terrorist runs on Australia.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2993113424656914009.post-71912771910892523052008-04-21T04:16:00.000-05:002008-04-21T04:16:00.000-05:00How are they so sure it was a pelican? did they find its beak? I'm sure you cannot tell a goose from a pelican when flying in a jet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2993113424656914009.post-25855949826887751802008-04-20T18:33:00.000-05:002008-04-20T18:33:00.000-05:00Did anyone get the detais for the Pelican.? I'd like to send flowers and a card.!<BR/><BR/>He died! The next of kin would like to thank all those who have send flowers but would futhers flowers please be send to your local pelican shelter. Thank you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2993113424656914009.post-31501714400885910112008-04-20T17:49:00.000-05:002008-04-20T17:49:00.000-05:00All of you are beginning to sound like former President Bill Clinton, when on the occasion of his impeachment hearing, he uttered the now famous: "It all depends on what your definition of is is."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2993113424656914009.post-89982521569045127052008-04-20T16:34:00.000-05:002008-04-20T16:34:00.000-05:00Did anyone get the detais for the Pelican.? I'd like to send flowers and a card.!baldheadedgithttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08203185580867415162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2993113424656914009.post-39116422589052717022008-04-20T11:22:00.000-05:002008-04-20T11:22:00.000-05:00daaang. I'm glad they crew made it out okay.Bennyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12334441211547908820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2993113424656914009.post-34399841174101827112008-04-20T08:37:00.000-05:002008-04-20T08:37:00.000-05:00By the time it had exited the engine, I'd say it was circularly polarised.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com